15 I walked up to the Historians office then to the presidents
Office President Young & D. H. Wells C C Rich & C. S. Wandle
and others were present. President Young conversed upon
principle and said that all our sufferings in this life was for
our good that we might learn the contrast between good and
evil Jesus descended below all things that He might ascend above
all things all men have to pass throug the same thLaw in order to
receive the same Glory Enoch, Elijah, and Moses, who were
translated will at some time have to pass through death because
the Law is that all men must tast of Death and the Lord does
not counteract his own laws or break them. Some are
alarmed because so many of my family are sick But I have
as good a right to be sick as any body I would not wish to
escape affliction, sickness, paine & sorrow no more than others
for if we make a right use of them they will return us
Blessings.

Brother Charles Wandle related to President
Young his life since he saw him told him sins & errors
his sorrow and affliction and his missions, and that He
had tried to reform &c He was now on hand to do any
thing the servants of the Lord wanted President Young told
him some Young women for wives as his first wife had
drawn him away and was opposed to poligamy and had
kept him away from the Church a long time & had turned
to whoredom & had a child by another man He now had
better let her stay in the Church states whare she now
was. He said he had had a great Deal of sorrow on her
account and even had taken to drinking Brandy to overcome
the sorrow & to get sleep he had taken a half pint tumbler full
of strong Brandy when he went to bed to get sleep. President
Young remarked I made up my mind years ago that I would
be governed by certain principles and among them I decreed
that women should not govern me neither should my passoins
of Lust or anger But I would be boss over myself my passions

and appetites which principles I have endeavored to carry out
in my life and if all men would do it it would be a great
Blessing to them.

In speaking upon Utah affairs Brother
Wandle said that Brother Hunt Had a good deal of influence in
the Calafornia Legislature and He told them and their senator
to Congress that He wanted them to appoint a Mormon for
Govornor but their senator said that was an impossibility for
President Buchanan had marked out his course in relation to the
Mormons and was resolved to carry it out and that was He was deter-
mined to over throw the Latter Day Saints and their institutions
let it cost what it would and the president would do nothing in
their favor and the government were determined to back him
up in this they were determined to blot out the Church govern-
ment from Utah and no power could help it. President
Young said that God had helped it so far and he would continue
to help it unto the end and they cannot Help themselves all the
people want us killed and those that wright write in our favor
among the gentile Editors are full of sin and do not wish us well
but they have a motive in view to accomplish the Lord puts that
motive in their minds yet they will not honor or serve God or
acknowledge his hand in any thing but the Lord will govern &
controll them all Just as He pleases. When Capt Van Vleit was
here He many times refered to the inexaustible overflowing treasury
of the United States and twenty five million of people and asked
if we could stand against such a Government, and when He got
back he found an Empty treasury and the Government wanting
to Borrow money I have no doubt but he thought of these things
and marvelled at it