24 I met with President B Young & H. C. Kimball
& O Pratt G A Smith A. Lyman C. C. Rich A. Carrington
Cummings Sprague and held an interview with
two men from Niquiorgo [Nicaragua] as Agents from Mr Kenny
owner of some thirty millions of Acres of land in the
Musketoe Kingdom they come to make proposals to the
Latter Day Saints to go and occupy that country
after introduction the conversation commenced upon the
latitude, climate, soil, production &c President Young said if
Mr Kenny would give other the Filbusterers every other sextion
it would make him rich Mr Cooper replyed that Mr Kenny
did not believe in that system. President Young said the
United States are determined to lay their hands upon all
that country. Mr Cooper said their is a treaty with
England and the U. S. that Neither party can take
possession of that country. B. Young said they care no
more about any treaty than a Horse does a spiders web
in his way to his feed they will break any treaty they
please when they have the power. Now if you have
any Proposals to make we will ^hear^ them. Mr Cooper said
we would like to hear your proposals. B Young said I
have no proposals to Make Mr Kinnays rights & titles
were discused B Young said as far as I am conserned
I will say that if Mr Kenny owned all that countyry &
Mexico and would give me the whole of it I would not go
there their would not but vary few from the Nothern
country that would live their J. V. Cooper thinks that we
underrate the climate. The Letters were read of introductn
G. A. Smith smaid iby the time we have got theire and spent
several years in improving the country themn they would
pour in by thousands and take what we have. Mr Cooper
said I look at treaties different from what you do for
upon that principle we could have no confidence in any
Nations. B Young said Bless your soul I have more confidnce

In the governments then they have all they have
care about it is they want to get power & they will
use it. What do the United States care about the Constitutin
Houper said, they are doing away with the Constitution
as fast as they can. their is no people in the Nation
that keep the Law as well as this people then what business
had they to send armies here None at all ownly because
they have the poower but they will also want some power
to maintain their armies when they get here Mr Cooper
said that He thought the Filbustering was at an end in that
country Presidnt Young asked if Mr HCooper was acquainted
with the political beat of the puls of the Government of the
United States He said he had observed a good Deal B young
said they are intending to annex all North & South
America as fast as they get the power Mr Cooper
said the country was ^as^ Healthy as this it contains the
Mountains rolling, & bottom lands their is the a great
amount of logwood, rosewood, and all kinds of woods and
fruits that grow in that climate. sugar cane, indigo, and
all kinds of fruits grow spontaineously B. Y. said that
the U S was so greedy to get territory they would soon
burst up & ruin themselves. Mr Kinny sympathizes
with us in our war but we have No war with any body
the United States are making war upon a little handful
of men they may make war as long as they pleas and
if they drive us hard enough we will show usthem fun
and their has not been a more imbecil Government
on Earth than President Buchanan has manifested during
his administration if hise had sat in his chair and said
not a word but remained as a monument and employed
a Boy 10 years old to have done his his business he would have
manifested more wisdom than he has done. If you have
any propisition to make to me I wish you to do it itn writing
but with a strict understanding that none of us will ever
go to that country. if we occupy that country we will do it
with people from other country. they said they would make
their proposition in writing these remarks are ownly a
sketch of the Conversations which passed The men returned
Then the speech of General Houston in the senate of the
United States was then read He defended the rights of the mor-
mons and dayre speak the truth, and he is the ownly man in
the senate that dare stand up and defended the rights of the
Inhabitants of Utah. The subject came up relatives to
the war. Edleex Williams said give me 50 men and I
will meet 10,000 men, and stop all and if one gets in
I will never come back A Lyman said take poisioned
Arrows and shoot the stock and shoot at the stock & not
the man all the time President Young said if it is the volun-
teers that come here they come on purpose to kill the
Mormons and I should be in for killing them as fast as we
have a chance. President Young told Mr J. B Cooper
& James M. Harbin when they get to Calafornia to tell
the people who seek our destruction that we ask no odds

of theyem they will yet see the day when they will
asx aid and assistane at my hands. I spent the
evening at the office and wrote a Letter to Mrs. W.