2nd I covered up my Grape vines and went to
the office President Young said while speaking of
the Indian war that it was better for us not to fight
them but feed them well treat them kindly & they
would kill far less of our people & die much
Faster themselves than they would to fight them
& drive them to subsist upon their former living
upon roots & herbs

I felt impressed during the evening to go to presidents Youngs
I called upon him & spent the evening with him & D H
Wells O. Hyde G. A. Smith John Taylor A Lyman

I did not know that the Twelve were going to meet
there Elders O Hyde & John Taylor gave an account
of their mission North They went to Farmington & preached
to the people They sharply reproved Brother Brownell for
Fault finding & sowing evil through the place against Bishop
Hess & others. Brother Brownell was vary stubborn & it
was finally dicided to cut him off from the Church if He
did not make confession next Sabbath the whole branch
voted for this measure. Brownell called upon Brother
Wells to get council upon it Brother Wells told him it
would do him no hurt to humble himself & make a confes-
sion as he was required. President Young said I have
often thought of the words of Solomon that a wise child
was Better than an old and foolish king [Ecclesiastes 4:13] I could pick
out many Boys in this Church 16 years old more fit
for Bishops than many old men who are Bishops there
are but few men who seem calculated to make Bishops
The Brethren then went to Willow Creek to settle a
Difficulty with Elder A Cordon the President & Bishop
Dives there were three or Four charges brought ag[ai]nst
Brother Cordon but when they were all investigated they
did not amount to any thing as a fault all the Branch
voted to sustain him as President the Bishops councellors
for the men who accused him four of his accusers were
cut off from the Church. The people did not like to vote
for Bishop Dives unless he would go by the council given
him He had it was said that the Bishop had a watch whth [which]
he carried that was tithing property & a cow they had milked
all summer & No credit given on the tithing Books &c
these matters were not much ivnvestigated President
Young said the Twelve should look into all such matters
& regulate them He asked if they saw any body there
that would make a Bishop they said No without it
was Elder Cordon. O Hyde thought He knew much
more than Bishop Dives. President Young said He
is not calculated for a Bishop He is a good man for
a President and in spiritual things But was not calcu-
lated for a Bishop. Their is anoth[er] thing Lorenzo Snow
presides over that region & is a prudent wise man yet he
has strong pregudices & doss not pull on the same strings that
I do there has been a kind of a spirit to keep Dives
Down But I believe if he had had the sole controll of
things there as the president opened the meetings & preached
to the people He would have made a good smart preacher
But I never saw the man that was kept down by his
superiors that could rise above it John Taylor asked
who is the greatest the President of [or] the Bishop. President
Young said the Bishop should attend to his own business
& let the Presidents alone & the Presidents should attend
to his Business & let the Bishops alone, but they should

The President should say to the Bishop can I do
any thing for you & the Bishop should say to the Presidt
can I do any thing for you & they should mutually
help each other President Young asked can a Bishop
try a President Answered yes. can a President try
a Bishop John Taylor thought there might be cases
whare a President Might try a Bishop President Young
said A Bishop Might try an Apostle & cut him off
whare he committed any outrageous Act in his ward
G A Smith said a Teacher might do the same as far as
his authority went But of course he could Appeal
President Young said a man cut himself off or on just
as he pleased by his own acts. But any one of the Twelve
while officiating in his office in any part of the world
are the Presidency of the Church the same as we are
at home their power is the same as ours & they should
investigate & regulate all matters appertaining to the
Church, without any regard to whatever instruction
they may have received