us in a position that when a man got a fulness of the Attributs
of God they would have to worship themselves. But if we worship
God we worship him because he possesses all the Attributes and
dispenses them to the children of men all these Attributes are the
servants of God they serve his purposes and are at his command
PresidentH C Kimball Followed President Young and said
Brother Orson Pratt has withstood Joseph and he has withstood
Brother Brigham many times and he has done it to night
and it made my Blood chill. it is not for you to lead but to
be leadd by him You have not the power to dictate but to be dictated
W. Woodruff arose and said Brother Orson Pratt
I wish to ask you one or two questions. you see that the spirit
and doctrin which you possess ins entirely in oposition to the First Presidency
The Quorum of the Twelve, and all who are present this evening and
it chills the Blood in our veins to hear your words & feel your
spirit should not this be an evidence to you that you are wrong
what would become of the Quorum of the Twelve if we all felt as you do
we should all go to Hell in a pile together. You say you are honest in
the course you are persueing. I wish to ask you if you was honest
when you said that if you had known that President Young
worshiped a God without life or Attributes that you would not have
written what you did (O Pratt said I will recall that) It was an insult
to President You[n]g and the Holy Priesthood which he holds. evry man
in this room who has a particle of the spirit of God, knows that President
Young is a Prophet of God and that God sustains him and He has the
Holy Spirit and his doctrins are true, and that he is qualifyed to
lead the people and he has explained evry thing so plain this evening
that a child can understand it, and yet it is no evidence to you. nothing
can make an impression upon you. no argument can reach your
understanding. But Brother Orson I have seen the day when
you was in sorrow it was when you was cast out of your Quorum
and out of the Church and that to in consequence of persueing the
same course you are this evening. then you could both see feel &
understand. then argument could reach you when you saw your glory
and crown departing from you. I beg of you to reflect and not let
your will carry you to Far in these things. it would be better for us
not to be able to cast up a simple sum in adition and be humble before
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us in a position that when a man got a fulness of the Attributs
of God they would have to worship themselves. But if we worship
God we worship him because he possesses all the Attributes and
dispenses them to the children of men all these Attributes are the
servants of God they serve his purposes and are at his command
PresidentH C Kimball Followed President Young and said
Brother Orson Pratt has withstood Joseph and he has withstood
Brother Brigham many times and he has done it to night
and it made my Blood chill, it is not for you to lead but to
be led by him. You have not the power to dictate but to be dictated
W. Woodruff arose and said Brother Orson Pratt
I wish to ask you one or two questions, you see that the spirit
and doctrin which you possess is entirely in a oposition to the First Presidency
The Quorum of the Twelve, and all who are present this evening and
it chills the Blood in our veins to hear your words & feel your
spirit should not this be an Evidence to you that you are wrong
what would become of the Quorum of the Twelve if we all felt as you do
we should all go to Hell in a pile together. You say you are honest in
the course you are pursueing, I wish to ask you if you was honest
when you said that if you had known that President Young
worshiped a God without life or Attributes that you would not have
written what you did (O Pratt said I will recall that) It was an insult
to President Young and the Holy Priesthood which he holds, evry man
in this room who has a particle of the spirit of God, knows that President
Young is a Prophet of God and that God sustains him and He has the
Holy Spirit and his doctrins are true, and that he is qualifyed to
lead the people and he has explained evry thing so plain this evening
that a child can understand it, and yet it is no evidence to you, nothing
can make an impression upon you, no argument can reach your
understanding. But Brother Orson I have seen the day when
you was in sorrow it was when you was cast out of your Quorum
and out of the Church and that to in consequence of persueing the
same course you are this evening, then you could both see feel &
understand, then argument could reach you when you saw your glory
and crown departing from you. I beg of you to reflect and not let
your will carry you to Far in these things, it would be better for us
not to be able to cast up a single sum in adition and be humble before
"Journal (January 1, 1860 – October 22, 1865)," January 27, 1860, The Wilford Woodruff Papers, accessed October 10, 2024, https://wilfordwoodruffpapers.org/p/r03p