The following remarks were made By Col Kane to W Woodruff Dec 4^th 1849

Col Kane remarked You are better without any Government from
the hands of Congress than a Territorial Goverment. The Political
intreagues of Government officers will be against you. You can govern
yourselves better than they can govern you. I would prefer to
see you withdraw the Bill than to have a Territorial Government
for if you are defeated in the State Government you can fall
upon it again at another session if you are not a Territorial
Government but if you are you cannot apply for a state Government
for a number of years. I insist upon it you do not want
corurupt Political men from Washington strutting around
you with military epilets & dress, who will speclate out of you
all they can. They will also control the Indian Agency land
Agency and will conflict with your calculation in a great
measure. You do not want two Governments with you you have
a Government now which is firm & Powerful and You are
under no obligations to the United States You owe them
nothing but kicks cuffs and the treatments of wicked dogs
for that is the ownly treatment you have recieved from their
hands since you have been a People. ("And the golden rule is what
measure men meet out shall be measured to them again") [Matthew 7:2]

Brigham Young should be your Govornor. His head is not
filled with Law Books and Lawyieers tactics but he has power to
see through men & things And all councillors Elders & agents abroad
should be made to know their place, sustain the head man & work
for the general good in all things and not act from selfish motives
or to get some petty office or a little salary. He said if we you did make
up our minds to ask for a Territory we should use evry exhertion
in our power to get the assureance of the President that our
choice should be granted us in a Govornor & other offices say
Brigham Young for Govornor &c But if we could not get
this assurance not to ask for it at all but wait the result
He said If we were a state, there might be ever so many
men come along and say I am Judge, I am Col, I am Gen
You can whistle and ask no odds of them. But while a Territory
You cannot do it. And then their is always so many intrigues
to make political parties among you. the first thing you know
A strong political party is rising up in your midst who are selfish
and against your interest.

Col Kane requested me to remember
what He had said to me as He might not have hea[l]th to do for us
what he was now doing And He wished his views to be known
to the Presidency in the valley. I remarked to him that I would
do so and pray for his success in our behalf also for his hea[l]th strength
& prosperity. He thanked me & said He should prize our prayers
Highly.

I felt impressed that Col Kane was endowed with much wisdom
in his course in our be half and I think that He had right views
of things in General

The following remarks were made By Col Kane to W Woodruff Dec 4th 1849

Col Kane remarked You are better without any Government from the hands of Congress than a Territorial Goverment. The Political intreagues of Government Officers will be against you. You can govern yourselves better than they can govern you. I would prefer to see you withdraw the Bill than to have a Territorial Government for if you are defeated in the State Government you can fall upon it again at another session if you are not a Territorial Government but if you are you cannot apply for a state Government for a number of years. I insist upon it you do not want corrupt Political men from Washington strutting around you with military epilets & dress, who will speculate out of you all they can. They will also control the Indian Agency land Agency and will conflict with your calculation in a great measure. You do not want two Governments with you you have a Government now which is firm & Powerful and You are under no obligations to the United States You owe them nothing but kicks cuffs and the treatment of wicked dogs for that is the ownly treatment you have recieved from their hands since you have been a People. ("And the golden rule is what measure men meet out shall be measured to them again")

Brigham Young should be your Govornor. His head is not filled with Law Books and Lawyers tactics but he has power to see through men & things And all councillors Elders & agents abroad should be made to know their place, sustain the head man & work for the general good in all things and not act from selfish motives or to get some petty office or a little salary. He said if we you did make up our minds to ask for a Territory we should use evry exhertion in our power to get the assureance of the President that our choice should be granted us in a Govornor & other officers say Brigham Young for Govornor &c But if we could not get this assurance not to ask for it at all but wait the result He said If we were a state, there might be ever so many men come along and say I am Judge, I am Col, I am Gen You can whistle and ask no odds of them. But while a Territory You cannot do it. And then their is always so many intrigues to make Political parties among you, the first thing you know A strong Political party is rising up in your midst who are selfish And against your interest.

Col Kane requested me to remember what He had said to me as He might not have health to do for us what he was now doing And He wished his views to be known to the Presidency in the valley. I remarked to him that I would do so and Pray for his success in our behalf also for his health strength & prosperity. He thanked me & said He should Prize our prayers Highly.

I felt impressed that Col Kane was Endowed with much wisdom in his course in our be half and I think that He had right views of things in General