Aug [Sep] 12, 1857

noDrummond was not the maine cause of the United States sending
thereir Armies against us "I think it is. There is not any
of the government officers which have been sent here
who have any interest with us But they haved tried
to destroy us. Capt Van Vleit said this is the case
with most men in the Territories they received their
offices as a steping stone to the senatorship, but they have
no interest for the people. This people have been lied about the
worst of any people I ever saw the greatest hold the world
have now upon you is they accuse you of Burning 900 vol
of the United States Statutes. Thomas Williams who was one
of the owners of the Books which were burned denies their
being any Books of the United States being burned. I have
told the people all the time all I asked of them was to tell
the truth about us to pay their debts & steal Nothing they
are welcome to go their way. No if this government
has arived at that state that they will tri to kill
the people for their religion No honorable man
should be afraid of them. President Young then told
the story about the Quaker that a Yankey went to whip
the Quaker said that he was not the man that he wanted
He had not done any thing wrong but the man said He would
whip him any how so the Quaker laid down his hat & coat
& said lie there religion untill I whip this man & he did
whip him tremendiously. It will be so with the United States
if they insist in whiping us they will get awfully whiped
Capt Van Vleit we have treated all men as well as we
have you who have been sent here as officers of the U S
government. we wish still to treat them well and we
would like to ward off this Blow if we could But
the United States are determined to drive us to fight
we cannot do any thing but what the government will take
exception to it. They will kill us if they can I have prof
of this. They killed Joseph & Hiram in Jail not with stand-
ing the faith of the Govornor the Armey & the states was
pleged to protect them, & when they had killed them
they then got a writ for me I carried a large Bowye
knife with me and I said that any man that laid hands
upon my sholder and said Mr Young you are my prisioner
I would send that man to hell across lots & I have said
that all the time since and I say it now I have broaken
now law neither will I be taken by any United States
officers to be killed as they have killed Joseph. They did
once take a Bugus [Bogus] Brigham which was Brother Miller
& took him to Carthage & did not find out his mistake
untill they got him there. Capt Van Vleit said that
I do not think that it is the intention of the Government to
take you but to instill a New Governor in this Territory
President Young said I Believe that you tell the truth that
you believe this but you do not know their intentions as well
as I do. when you get away from here you will think
of a great many things which you have seen and heard
The people have all the time accused us of colleagueing with the
Indians against the Governm[en]t & they were much afraid

Aug 12, 1857 Drummond was not the maine cause of the United States sending their Armies against us "I think it is. There is not any of the government officers which have been sent here who have any interest with us But they have tried to destroy us. Capt van vleit said this is the case with most men in the Territories they received their offices as a steping stone to the senatorship, but they have no interest for the people. This people have been lied about the worst of any people I ever saw the greatest hold the world have now upon you is they accuse you of Burning 900 vol of the United States Statutes. Thomas Williams who was one of the owners of the Books which were burned denies their being any Books of the United States being burned. I have told the people all the time all I asked of them was to tell the truth about us to pay their debts & steal Nothing they are welcome to go their way. Now if this government has arived at that state that they will tri to kill the people for their religion No honorable man should be afraid of them. President Young then told the story about the Quaker that a Yankey went to whip the Quaker said that he was not the man that he wanted He had not done any thing wrong but the man said He would whip him any how so the Quaker laid down his hat & coat & said lie there religion untill I whip this man & he did whip him tremendiously. It will be so with the United States if they insist in whiping us they will get awfully whiped Capt Van Vleit we have treated all men as well as we have you who have been sent here as officers of the US government. we wish still to treat them well and we would like to ward off this Blow if we could But the United States are determined to drive us to fight we cannot do any thing but what the government will take exception to it. They will kill us if they can I have prof of this. They killed Joseph & Hiram in Jail not with standing the faith of the Govornor the Armey & the states was pleged to protect them, & when they had killed them they then got a writ for me I carried a large Bowie knife with me and I said that any man that laid hands upon my sholder and said Mr Young you are my prisioner I would send that man to hell across lots & I have said that all the time since and I say it now I have broaken no law neither will I be taken by any United States officers to be killed as they have killed Joseph. They did once take a Bogus Brigham which was Brother Miller & took him to Carthage & did not find out his mistake untill they got him there. Capt Van vleit said that I do not think that it is the intention of the Government to take you but to instill a New Governor in this Territory President Young said I Believe that you tell the truth that you believe this but you do not know their intentions as well as I do. when you get away from here you will think of a great many things which you have seen and heard The people have all the time accused us of Colleagueing with the Indians against the Government & they were much afraid