Oct 26

That the United States Government was looseing their Nation-
al greatness & wisdom is departed from them and we need
not have as much fear of them as we would of an Armey
of Grass hoppers if they take away our charter from us & divide
up our Territory it will be unconstitutional as evry thing is they
do against us. I told Brother Bernhisel that if they took
away our charters to come immediately home as soon as He
could & we would organize our state Government & fall
back upon our original Boundaries. Our East Boundary should
be at Laramie the west the summit of the Siera Nevade & run to the
pacific Ocean &c & we would defend it. John Taylor twho sat
in the Judgment seat Saith that was our legal Lawful & Legitimat
right President Young said I want Sanbernadeno & Carson valley
to remain & not be disturbed for I want the people there to raise
stock to supply us from time to time as we need. The U. S.
may do as they please we will do as the Lord wants us. One
young officer of the Army said that Old Jesus Christ could
not keep him out of salt Lake City But they will find
out who rules on Earth & in heaven Another Officer said
the United States would wipe us out another year should
they send an Army of 20000 men it would take more than
20 miles for their armey & train to move at all and the more ther
is off them the worse off they will be. Mr Ray called upon
President Young and wished him to buy his goods. He told
him his goods were a poor lot in camparison to Mr Bells
yet if ^Br^ Hooper would buy him out He would back him
up, president Young also told Mr Ray that He would
give him a little council if He would take it He told him
to stop taking opium and Alchohol and stop your fears and
hold up your head and be cheerful "Mr Ray I will now
tel you the truth. The Gentile Merchants with yourself
have been the means of Bringing on this present war you
have been selling my Blood & the Blood of my Brethren
from for Gold this I shall not put up with it any longer
I shall not permit any Gentile merchant to do business in
territory after this year in the way they have we have been
kind to them & I have been their friend & our people have
paid them promptly & they should have been our friends
& told the truth about us but they have not realized
what they were doing.["] many other remarks were made
Brother Taylor said will not the armey go into winter
Quarters & entrench themselves & remain untill they get help
from the states. President Young said if an army comes to
help them in the spring we will use up this army first &
then we will use up the other before they get to the south
Pass. In the spring we must ask Allexander what He intends
to do inform him He must not stay there untill He gets rein-
forcements in the spring and if they will not leave in the
spring we will use them up first the best we can in 10 days
we can put 2000 men around them which would soon use
them up. I do not believe that they will have 500 fight-
ing men in the spring. They are in a vary critical situ-
ation they say they have no other way to get a living

Oct 26 That the United States Govornment was looseing their National greatness & wisdom is departed from them and we need not have as much fear of them as we would of an Armey of Grass hoppers if they take away our charter from us & divide up our Territory it will be Unconstitutional as evry thing is they do against us. I told Brother Bernhisel that if they took away our charters to come immediately home as soon as He could & we would organize our State Government & fall back upon our original Boundaries. Our East Boundary should be at Laramie the west the summit of the Siera Nevada & run to the pacific Ocean &c & we would defend it. John Taylor who sat in the Judgment seat Saith that was our legal Lawful & Legitimat right. President Young said I want Sanbernadeno & Carson valley to remain & not be disturbed for I want the people there to raise stock to supply us from time to time as we need. The U.S. may do as they please we will do as the Lord wants us. One young officer of the Army said that Old Jesus Christ could not keep him out of salt Lake City But they will find out who rules on Earth & in heaven. Another officer said the United States would wipe us out another year should they send an Army of 20000 men it would take more than 20 miles for their armey & train to move at all and the more there is off them the worse off they will be. Mr Ray called upon President Young and wished him to buy his goods. He told him his goods were a poor lot in camparison to Mr Bells yet if Br Hooper would buy him out He would back him up, president Young also told Mr Ray that He would give him a little council if He would take it. He told him to stop taking opium and Alchohol and stop your fears and hold up your head and be cheerful "Mr Ray I will now tel you the truth. The Gentile Merchants with yourself have been the means of Bringing on this present war you have been selling my Blood & the Blood of my Brethren for Gold this I shall not put up with it any longer I shall not permit any Gentile merchant to do business in the territory after this year in the way they have we have been kind to them & I have been their friend & our people have paid them promptly & they should have been our friends & told the truth about us but they have not realized what they were doing." many other remarks were made Brother Taylor said will not the armey go into winter Quarters & entrench themselves & remain untill they get help from the states. President Young said if an army comes to help them in the spring we will use up this army first & then we will use up the other before they get to the south Pass. In the spring we must ask Allexander what He intends to do inform him He must not stay there untill He gets reinforcements in the spring and if they will not leave in the spring we will use them up first the best we can in 10 days we can put 2000 men around them which would soon use them up. I do not believe that they will have 500 fighting men in the spring. They are in a vary critical situation they say they have no other way to get a living