Afternoon, Oct. 10th, .
REPORTED BY GEO. F. GIBBS.
THERE are many times when I feel
a great desire to speak to the people
because I have things in my heart
that I would like to say. I cannot
say at the present time, however,
that I have any great desire to
speak, still I will bear my testimony
and express a few thoughts in my
reflections that are upon me to-day.
I am happy and greatly pleased in
what I have witnessed, and I feel
that the heavens are pleased with
our proceedings this day. I feel that
they are right. The kingdom of God
is onward; it is not backward. It is
wisdom that we perform what we
have done this day.
The act of organizing the council
of the first presidency of the church
and kingdom of God, I have regarded
as a most solemn scene, to see this
mighty host of priesthood who are
assembled in this house vote in such
unanimity, and to see this vast con-
gregation rise in a body with uplifted
hands to heaven, it is like the rush-
ing of many waters—there is power
in it; there is power with this peo-
ple; there is power with the priest-
hood and in the ordinances of the
house of God. And what we have
done to-day will have its effect it
will have its effect in the heavens
and on the earth. The responsibil-
ity that we bear as elders of Israel,
before the heavens and before the
earth and before each other, is very
great. We are called of God; we
have been chosen, we have been or-
dained as men who have been called
to bear the priesthood and to attend
to the ordinances of the house of
God, to preach the gospel, to warn
this generation, to build up Zion, to
redeem the earth, to erect temples
unto the name of the Most High
God, to redeem the living and the
dead and to carry out those great
purposes which have been fore-or-
dained before the world was. It is a
great calling, it is a great responsi-
bility: and I feel that we, as ser-
vants of God and as elders of Israel,
that we should try in our minds to
comprehend these things.
I reflect a good deal with regard to
our position, as was described to us
to-day by Brother Pratt. It has
been my faith and belief from the
time that I was made acquainted
with the gospel that no greater pro-
phet than Joseph Smith ever lived
on the face of the earth save Jesus
Christ. He was raised up to stand
at the head of this great dispensa-
tion—the greatest of all dispensations
God has ever given to man. He re-
marked on several occasions when
conversing with his brethren:
"brethren, you do not know me, you
do not know who I am." As I re-
marked at our priesthood meeting
on Friday evening, I have heard him
in my early days while conversing
with the brethren, say, (at the same
time smiting himself on the breast)
"I would to God that I could unbo-
som my feelings in the house of my
friends." Joseph Smith was or-
dained before he came here, the
same as Jeremiah was. Said the
Lord unto him, "Before you were
begotten I knew you" &c. [Jeremiah 1:5]
So do I believe with regard to this
people, so do I believe with regard
to the apostles, the high priests,
seventies and the elders of Isreal
bearing the holy priesthood, I believe
they were ordained before they came
here; and I believe the God of Israel
has raised them up, and has watched
over them from their youth, and has
carried them through all the scenes
of life both seen and unseen, and has
prepared them as instruments in his
hands to take this kingdom and bear
it off. If this be so, what manner of
men ought we to be? If anything
under the heavens should humble
men before the Lord and before one
another, it should be the fact that
we have been called of God.
I believe the eyes of the heavenly
hosts are over this people; I believe
they are watching the elders of Is-
rael, the prophets and apostles and
men who are called to bear off this
kingdom. I believe they watch
over us all with great interest.
I will here make a remark con-
cerning my own feelings. After
the death of Joseph Smith I saw
and conversed with him many times
in my dreams in the night season.
On one occasion he and his brother
Hyrum met me when on the sea go-
ing on a mission to England. I had
Dan Jones with me. He received
his mission from Joseph Smith be-
fore his death; and the prophet
talked freely to me about the mis-
sion I was then going to perform.
And he also talked to me with regard
to the mission of the Twelve Apostles
in the flesh, and he laid before me
the work they had to perform; and
he also spoke of the reward they
would receive after death. And
there were many other things he
laid before me in his interview on
that occasion. And when I awoke
many of the things he had told me
were taken from me, I could not
comprehend them. I have had
many interviews with Brother Jos-
eph until the last 15 or 20 years of
my life; I have not seen him for that
length of time. But during my
travels in the southern country last
winter I had many interviews with
President Young, and with Heber
C. Kimball, and Geo. A. Smith, and
Jedediah M. Grant, and many
others who are dead. They attended
our conference, they attended our
meetings. And on one occasion, I
saw Brother Brigham and Brother
Heber ride in carriage ahead of
the carriage in which I rode when I
was on my way to attend conference;
and they were dressed in the most
priestly robes. When we arrived at
our destination I asked Prest. Young
if he would preach to us. He said,
"No, I have finished my testimony
in the flesh I shall not talk to this
people any more. But (said he) I
have come to see you; I have come
to watch over you, and to see what
the people are doing. Then (said
he) I want you to teach the people
—and I want you to follow this coun-
sel yourself—that they must labor
and so live as to obtain the Holy
Spirit, for without this you cannot
build up this kingdom; without the
Spirit of God you are in danger of
walking in the dark, and in danger
of failing to accomplish your calling
as apostles and as elders in the
church and kingdom of God.
And, said he Brother Joseph
taught me this principle." And I
will here say, I have heard him refer
to that while he was living. But
what I was going to say is this: the
thought came to me that Brother
Joseph had left the work of watch-
ing over this church and kingdom to
others, and that he had gone ahead,
and that he had left this work to
men who have lived and labored
with us since he left us. This idea
manifested itself to me, that such
men advance in the spirit world.
And I believe myself that these men
who have died and gone into the
spirit world had this mission left
with them, that is, a certain portion
of them, to watch over the Latter-
day Saints.
I feel myself as though we are
blessed of the Lord, and that we
ought to be satisfied. I feel that we
should humble ourselves before God,
that we should labor to magnify our
calling, and honor this priesthood
which we received before we came
here while we live out the few days
appointed to man in the flesh. And
I do hope and pray God that we may
magnify our priesthood and calling
while we tarry here, so that when
we get through our earthly mission
and go into the spirit world, we may
meet with Brothers Joseph and
Brigham and Heber and the rest of
the faithful men whom we knew
and labored with while in the flesh,
as well as Father Adam, Enoch,
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and all
the prophets and apostles who have
had their day and their time and
their generation, and who have fin-
ished their work here below and
gone home to glory. Do you not
think they are interested about us?
I tell you they are. And I desire
when I die, and my spirit goes into
the spirit world, to meet these men
and to go where they are; and I wish
to live in that way and manner so
as to be worthy of this blessing.
And when I say this of myself I
wish it to apply to all Israel. It
will not pay us to apostatize; neither
will it pay us to sin, it costs ten
thousand times more than it is worth
from beginning to end. Therefore,
let us be true and faithful to God.
And inasmuch as we have voted to-
day to sustain the presidency of this
church and kingdom, let our prayers
ascend night and morning into the
ears of the Lord of Sabaoth in behalf
of the men who now stand at our
head, and also in behalf of the apos-
tles and in behalf of all the priesthood
of God in their place and station.
And inasmuch as we do this we will
grow, we will advance, the Spirit of
God will be poured out upon us
which will reveal unto us the mind
and the will of God concerning us.
And Zion will continue to increase
in power on the earth, and eventually
accomplish all for which it is de-
signed, which is my prayer in the
name of Jesus. Amen.